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Episode 34 · 8 months ago

Interview with Chidiebere Ibe

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Chidiebere Ibe is a medical student and is a medical illustrator aspiring to create a hospital out in Nigeria 

You made me fast. Hey, guys, it's Jason and welcome to you. Can I ask you a question? Neurology edition. So today we have an absolutely amazing guest for us today. He is a medical illustrator and the amazing, amazing person. So please may you introduce yourself to our audience. HIVER one, I'm Chiday baby and I'm gonna Enjoy Medical Illo street or and the medical students that they keep medical arrest of your creed. I'm training five years old and, of course, one in nine year. But a reason agera. I hold your position the creature director of the decision and few Africa and your surgeons. I'm also the Great Director of Young Yours. I don't forums. Also, do you know coming teem member? What fool is you? A mirror surgeons blow on year, surge, Committeem I'm passionate about art and Merson and I intend striking a balance between these two. It's good to be here today. Wow, it's good too, happy here today. It's not set amazing listening to all the things that you've accomplished in your life. That's absolutely amazing. So that brings me to my first question. What inspired you to become a doctor, or doctor and training, as I should say. All right, so first of all, I mean from when I was young, the first career at if I choose, was to be a doctor, and so I had no nothing else other than that. But I mean along the line I was kind of just courage to go to medicals because I have traveled, because for five years I wasn't admitted to medical school and and I love my mom to cancer, okay, and that was that was a more reason to push forward to becoming a predebting newer surgeon, to be a doctor, because as a young child, watching her passed on, the pains was just too much to bear. And so I want to be able to write that that piece. That's happiness that I mean to give every child. That that'sendo belonging true medicine that I never had myself. So that's why I want to be a doctor's absolutely amazing and I guess at that young age where you thought that that would be the best route to becoming and to changing other people's lives as well, and I don't think many people appreciate that sometimes because they mainly think, oh, that person's lady becoming a doctor just because of you. Know the money that you may earn from it, and it's really about looking and seeing, you know, it's more to that. Many people have lost people due to illnesses and things, and you're the person he wants to change that, which I absolutely love, and that's on the things that I really want to become a doctor for. So one of my genes is to become an orthodontist or a classic surgeon. So I want to change for that, and listening to your story of why you did that and your courage towards that absolutely amazing. So my next question is, what are the key steps to actually becoming a doctor or becoming a medical illustrator? Okay, so that's more like to question in one and you know. Yeah, so the first step to becoming a doctor is the passion. Yeah, so, because, I mean, people told me a lot of things are like here Nigeria. Most Times, most doctors do not have jobs. Some of the dogs most make used in after the medical school, they going to business, are going to a lot of things that not may carry related. That's because the medical system here in Nigeria does not favor people. You, I mean I offer medicals, you don't get jobs. So what before continuing to go into a carrier like medic you more be passionate about it, because at some point to get very difficult and you would probably want to you regreat. Why good medical school, because it's going to be very difficult. So first of all I'll say is a passion against all or again, when things are not working right for you, like you're not giving up. Like for me personally, as I said before, I try me Tocau School for five with years. I wasn't admitted. So if there's something about doing because of the money,...

I would have given up on it. I mean because I had people telling me why wasting your time in medicine? I mean why waste your time while going to technology, which is what gives everybody money? Now and bill me before misunderstand that. It's not about the money. It's because I'm passionate about what I do. The first of all, I put in a car like medicine, you must be passionate about it and first of all you might be willing to sacrifice yourself, because it wanting the passion of something, wanting to give yourself wholly to read. So that's that's the first step. You more the passionate about Merson in mode, willing to give yourself to people and also to be a medical illustrator. Well, you, first of all, we see, like for me, that I am a self taught make Illo straighto. Okay. So for you to have an interesting lost in illustration, first of all, you was locked art. Okay, I love art a lot. That I appreciate at a Lord. You must love artem was, of course, love biology, love, and not to me to be able to do that, and you must be able to pay attention to details, because it's if you draw them that is wrong. You could could miss leap at a person who are starting from studying with that. So basically, that's just the state. And also one of the things I would love to say is that they needed not giving up because, as Ila said, I myself thought illustrata and when I started, I started with just a computer amount and a very would compete are to learn, and for one good year or teaching myself this, every day I was drawing almost every day. So at some point, if it did past that I wasn't drawing, I felt so bad about I felt I watching wasting my life, something like that, you know, boy. So that's how that's how I agree, from from making you the passion to making it their purples for me. So that's just pretty much how all people should consider and future a keral like medicine or being a medical of strator. Wow, that's absolutely amazing and like you're pushing your drive for learning something, and I really loved how you said it. You need passion to do what you do and I think that everybody needs to hear that in the world to day, whether it's goning to medical studies or just going to find a job, you need to have passion to do it and not just do it for, you know, the money or the fame that you can get from it. You need to be passionate, because it's one thing having a job that you're not happy about and it's another thing of having a job that you're absolutely happy about. It's about balancing the two. You have to be happy in work and happy in life and you can't just be, you know, happy in life and not happy in work. You have to be passionate about the things that you do, and that's something that I absolutely love. So my next question is, what advice would you give to someone looking to go into the medical industry and like. What would you tell a person like your younger self, I guess. So what else up this? For those who desire to go into medicine, go we derive MOTIF. Okay, go with the right motive, because I've had friends who who we had the same interest a going to medical school together. But along the line, windows win. God difficult when they when the tread act first. I didn't get it. I mean different, I mean the stop trying. That's because jam multive was wrong, because I know bit basically this. There's this sense of belonging to this prestige that comes with be a medical doctor, that you are that you're smart and that's your good looking and that you are well any but it's not just about that, because that's people get it wrong. If, if you're going for a career because of the prestige that comes from it, you understand that not every time of with your prestige come and what happened? We doesn't comes, you lose for course, and you lose God of yourself. So for young people who are besiding the cheese a characters in Africa, mostly our parents, you pushing us to go into carry out promising like being a lawyer, being a doctor, being an engineer. It's not just about that.

Because now the thing is this. I when else, when I choose to be a medical dogs of people, and my family asked me, how are you going to be rich? I can make money from missing. How you? How are you going to I don't know, I don't know. I like since I don't know. I don't know how I'm going to be rich. I don't know how I'm going to be my person. But the goal is not to make money for medicine. Body. Goal is to to give myself to salutary savees of humanity, and that has been the motive towards it. And so when your motive is right, okay, your actions will be right, because what about drives you to doing a thing? For example, when I started medical illustrations, okay, my motive wasn't to be famous, since all don't. Till today, I'm so sure that I'm disabled. I like I'm so sure. My momty want to be my multive was just to address a problem, but to the honor position of black people in medical testbook. That the motival was working towards, and the motive has paved way for me right now. So that's same people are going to the medical feel as young people who are going to medicine. Let it be a going for the right mute and right motive used to impact the healthcare system. And if that's the motive, I believe, believe in me that when this gets off, when doll get difficult, you have more reasons to stay on them. Like, for example, when, as a I don't want to fall out to medical shrug, when I was any Makle resurance because here and you haven't yeah, stayed to wear to where I go to walk, because I'm a Christian. Right, so most days, most times, I go to church. I go to church for like going chalk that one body year just to get past supply. Okay, to work every for one good years. Imagine making it want our travel to where you get parts of light every day for one good year. So difficult, very difficult for me, but I mean I didn't give up one it. So because the multiple was right. The multive was just to do what I believed in and speak of what I believe you. So that's just the very every young personal there who want to just get the mutive right is a motive is right. You will hap been in to stay in that. Wow, absolutely amazing. Once again, that's certainly amazing how like people who are so fond of the things that they want to do in life, and how you said that you wanted to help humanity. That's one thing that I think the world really needs to hear and say. Really wake up to see that it's not for what you can get, but what you can give. It's the most amazing thing, and I really love how you were talking about like you wanted to change this, like the perspective how, you know, black people are looked in in medicine or like like the medical culture, and that's one thing that I really wanted to, you know, prove wrong. It's not that we can't do it, it's that we needed to the help to do so. We need people to tell us that, you know, even though we come from this certain background, we can still do this, because most of the rich and famous people that we see today came from those backgrounds of not having, you know, the support that they really needed to go and to do what they really needed to do and to help the world to understand that it's not where you came from, it's what you desire to do with where you came from. So people can come from poor backgrounds and, you know, Beast Thinking, oh I'm stuck in this loop forever and not being able to change what I am and where I come from. Well, it's really you just understanding that, you know, you have a passion, if you have a drive and if you have a motive towards what you want to do and what you want to change in the world, you can literally just do it, and that's one of the things that I really love about what you were saying as well, and learning to change the motive of what people think about certain cultures, of what they can and can't do, and really understanding how it is where you live as well, because in London, or England I should say it, many people would like to go into like surgery or become a certain or a doctor because of, you know, the fame it can give them or how they can change the way someone may look. And really, for me, the reason I want, why I wanted to become either a surgeon or on Northo Dantis, was to, you know, help people from backgrounds where they thought that...

...they couldn't be something and churn them into someone that they can be something. It's learning to, you know, give people the hope of saying many people might have told you know, but I'm here to say yes to you, and it's learning that we can help each other on the way and we don't have to be, you know, this person where we can say, oh well, I'm a doctor, I can't really help because I'm higher up than you. Why can't you be the doctor that can help the person who wants to become who you are? It's about being a role model to becoming you know, teaching people that you can become me and you can overcome me as well, by teaching them and by giving them read the resources how they can learn to be at the same level as you. I think that's what everybody needs to do in life and I think everybody can agree with that as well. So do you have whole study tips for people looking to go into medical area? Okay, yeah, so for me, I mean so do I studies by ary you friends, because I'm an artist. Okay, I draw, and it's a reading to do that. When you were at I draw, I remember what I draw more than what I study. So that's why I am that's why I work lookatting for that medicle that medical school should include add in the Curculon, because it's also a will making students remember all wor they've read. Because, of course, you see, I did picture speaking more time, speaking on a tows on works. So, if if are able to tell from personally, for me, whenever I draw in my I lo straight. I remember everything in detail compared to when I'm studying them. But for those who don't draw, one thing that worked for me is to understand, understand your your strength and your weaknesses. For me, I read all around. I can't be morning and read. Have to not can read night. I mean, I'm just all around, so what. But mostly I love reading the night also because most times I could be busy with a lot of classes, a lot of meetings, or I have to lose straight also, but I I spend more time studying the night. And for those who so, one thing I've helped my study is that I study at my own peace. Okay, and it works in me a lot. So, because the school system would give you what study, would give you how to study, but my normally work for you. It's for you to understand what works best for me, like, for example, when I will take my first degree, because in chemistry. I most times I miss classes. I wasn't a sending classes, okay, because the class of just boring a lot of class lectures, but I would just go back to get all the notes and finish everything just one night. So that will works for me. That will work for me as a person. So if, first of all, I would say for those are the fine work works for you, because all what from noting what was working for you. We must understand are you? Are you a night person? I A night crawler. I should not deal with in the day. If you're not reading the idea, of course you have to take out the classes always in the deal with time. So dam actually affect to read. So you might at need them to adjust yourself to night treading. And what am I? What I do most is to I consume more of online lectures, okay, because what what classes gives you might not be sufficiently know. What I do with them is to take a lot of courses online, is to what youtube videos, and most them I'm just my teacher, okay, I just myself everything. So I think that's now we would have helped me. So I in all my endeavors, everything I've learned, the way I thought myself. So it's other is simple one, because this is popularity. I say is that once purpos is not known, abuse inevitable. Okay, so, if you've known yourself, if you found yourself and you know what works for you as a person, and tell you at a person out there and you know that this what I do, is what I cannot do and this is my strengths. Right good. The fact is a lot of people like to themselves a lot, and that's what I've affected their career generally. You know, and and people try to people try...

...to make comparisons and and that's one study to people don't talk about. It is wrong to make comparisons with people because, for examply, even a class where you are, you know, the smutches in the class and the one that as much you and you making comparisons get a present. It's gonna Affect The studies because you're not competing to be better than a person, but to be a better version of yourself. So that's why it's good to understand yourself, understand what you what you want and what you know want. And we understand that it should affect every err life, but with your your communication life, your study life, your social life and all of that. So I think first things, on the standwhat work for you wouldn't work for you? Then do your time table and I just skip out of your wow, that is absolutely amazing. Do you have any like recommendations for books that people can invest in medical books or generally medical books? Well, that's kind of kind of brought because as as you go on, as you go on, there a lot of potime because I you read, but I mean for me I wanted to be a new surgeon. Most of the books I read where. I mean I thought medicals are something cannot avoid, of course, so you just have to keep reading a lot of their lottle bit more. I think a good start is great and not on me. Okay, that's a very good to start. I think I have a have a an invasion of that and a house also had a book on so most of the books I have is a not on, because that's we most didn't have difficulties, and that's on me remembering whole and not to me and all of that. You know. So what good to start is ana to me, but I mean it's what I'll typically is. If you knew you're going to read a whole school, you will see a lot of medicults, sisup point, getting to excited, a war storied, a lot of medical that's fine, that's cool. But I think for what I do is I find a role model in my way, for example, being custom okay, he's a near your senior surgeon and reading a lot of books about how he became a near so do and how he conquered is, you know, feeling like that. So I read more of his books also. So I'll just inquit people who want to know books to read, first of all style, with books that aligned to your career. I mean, for you want to be an autodontist or epit classic surgeon. I know a lot of persons who are plastic surgeons, who are who are reading a couple of books on how they conquered you know, they are their fears and that had they made success. So do. I really good book to start with, because that will shape your mind a ready for medical school and shaping for success already. So I think that's just wow, is absolutely amazing. So my last question would be what would you say you would want to achieve and like the next five years in your medical career. All right, thank you for that. So in the next five years I think I'll be medical. I think I was running up medical school by then. Yeah. So, I mean I have a couple of goals because first of all I want to impact Africa's healthcare system, because another doctors would travel out to study aside the country and steady forever made it day. I mean very clear about having in Africa. So from from from recent and statistics, there's a very little number of new southern in Africa. I mean some countries in Africa have no near surgeon, none at all. So imagine. Yes, of course. I mean I think in Africa they are only about two thousand five hundred near surgeon. I think so, if I'm not wrong, in the entire Africa. So some countries could be, one countries could be to some countries known. And that's the way striking figure. And that's because...

...nears is a really difficult area of medicine and people run away from it a lot. Who it takes a longer to go in your surgeon board. And I realize that children in Africa are dying a lot of brain effects because it's it's expensive to treat nearer surgery cases, and most of them have these. Of course they're near us. Then to take a risk of which Casey, Soho. Who Take Care of them? So I'm only be able to combat my country and impact the healthcare system and along the road run as a medical student or before film medicals go out, I'm going to do the whole of medical test books, and I would I mean it's somewhat on my manner right now. I mean it's going to massive. So I'm from next year I'll start working on that. I'm going to produce a whole lot of Madicle test books, of course, all in blasting, of course. So, and it's it's an also working. I'm also working on a book as going to ray be. So that book I'm going to I'm going to launch it out on my final year in medical school or when I'm live Medi Suds. Now it's going to be okay, I'm not going to be close to the the title. I'm going to feel title board. I'm not going to give it to a higher going to look like so it's going to be a book that strikes a balance of how how how medicine can be moved fun when you are artistic okay. So just I'm just trying to keeping through that. So I'm going to do that book at the enemy of, you know, my medical school, but I don't know. I'm going to use a lot of medical test books, a lot of articles, a lot of Altso but generally after my medical school I want to my own to my residency the US, by the UK, any of that. But I mean I've had offers to come to the AD, to come to UK for medical school and to come to u. So I'm saying it too, as I'm clear, to weigh that often. Yeah, so, yeah, that's pretty much. I mean it's there's a whole lot of thing of my mind. Yeah, I'm also from next year. I was, I think, an initiative. Okay, so it initiative is to give back to Africa. Initiative would be to advocacy, mentorship and empowerment of Africans. So it's a way of empowering Africans to find it, finding a reason to to be a medical or straight or to finding career medical locations and also to encourage your Ma don't know, Africans to go into karact like medicine, of course, and so that's pretty much what I intend doing for a long run. I mean that that just many things. As time goes on, you just keep arravling self. Yeah, it's absolutely amazing. I can't wait for the book. I will actually read it because some of the books that I have my wellow and the weather from Hawaii sent me the atlas of Human Anatomy, which I'm reading. It's absolutely amazing and I can't wait to see you illustration book. That's something that I would definitely invest in. So far, and do you have any last words or any lost words of inspiration to share with our readers? All right, yeah, so justice. People ask me what. People ask me this question. I was a great all the greatest investment that I could rite you as a person. So I say the greatest batment is a element of self, because people, people are see, the thing is is the wall is just too busy, the wall is noisy, the wall is crowded. And what people do? People don't go with a train and forget to do a love themselves. Because the greatest due to gift to the world, the gift of self, will give giving yourself the best, when you give yourself the best dutes, and that's to do look yourself, you will be a value to the wall, and that's the mistake most African is the most people do. They just want to make himpact, just want to put out there to the field to just do big thing, but they forget that you cannot give what you don't have, and that's giving yourself the value that you deserve. And that's the best thing that you could happened to a person. Look in wards, looking...

...more, I told you a lot, looking what we've got. That really find piece. That's what you find joy and so you find ful filming and that's what I love all about. So that's just every o person out there for you to make an empower to make a change in your world. First of all, walk on yourself. First of all, give yourself the best Dutch you can ever happen to the gift of self improvement. Wow, thank you. Is there any way that all of our audience can find you on social media? Yeah, I think ability on addition medias. Yes. So, yeah, I'm on Instagram, which is a very lost rats. I Want Tweeter, very lust rate and my linking to the very bay. My email is to the very bet with you four, and Gmail does come. I'm on facebook. Also told the very big yeah, well, I'm not to talk, you know. Yeah, Oh, you should be share illustrations. I can't keep up. It's going to be too much to me. Oh Wow, that it was been it's been a pleasure and an honor interviewing you and finding out everything that you are passionate about, I guess, and you know, giving people hope for what they can achieve in the future. So it was absolutely amazing interviewing you. I'll leave all your social media handle in the description down below and thank you again. Thank you so much for having thank you.

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